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Conversation between an Idolator and a Muslim

13 May

A Conversation between an idolator and a Muslim

Muslim: Hey, how are you? Can I ask you something? What would you say to me, if I broke off a massive piece of rock from a mountain and started worshiping it?

Idolator: Hey, that would be a bit strange

Idolator: I mean why would you worship that?

Muslim: what if I carved an image into the rock, then worshiped it? Would that be better?

Idolator: Maybe…that at least would make more sense I guess

Muslim: But wouldn’t the rock still be….a rock?

Idolator: I don’t think so…now it has a meaning

Muslim: So it’s not a rock anymore?

Idolator: it’s still a rock but now that u have carved something on it u forge the rock and see what’s carved in it

Muslim: Does you think my carved rock could answer my prayers? Or perhaps it’s better to worship the One who created the rock?

Idolator: Hmm…

Muslim: Just something to think about……

Idolator: …Now answering your question, if you are praying to your carved rock and the prayers seem to be working then continue or else just worship the one who creates the rock

Muslim: Hmm…But is the rock really answering the prayers? Or the One who created it, answering the prayers? I mean, if you were to take the rock away, the prayers would still get answered, right?

Idolator: Hmm…True

Idolator: Good question

Muslim: In fact, if this rock had any powers, why couldn’t it carve itself?

Idolator: No idea man !

Idolator: (Confused)

Idolator: You might just worship the One who Created everything

Muslim: So my final question to you is: how come Hindus worship carved rocks? Why not worship the One who created you and the rock!

Idolator: The carved rock is god rite? The one who created the rock is also god rite?

Idolator: So we are worshiping to god

Muslim: How can the rock be God? Because remember, we carved the rock…does that mean we carved God? Isn’t God the Creator not the Created?

Idolator: Hmm…True

Muslim: just something to think about…

Idolator: I guess that means that we carved god on something that he created…ahh this is confusing

Muslim: Ask yourself this, if this craved idol fell on the floor, could it pick itself up? If not, how can it help me if it cant even help itself?

Idolator: No it wouldn’t, its not magic Smile

Muslim: Yeh Smile

Idolator: Hmm…

Muslim: So why do you worship these images? Why not worship the One True God?

Idolator: And who is the true god?

Muslim: Muslims believe in one, unique, incomparable God, Who has no son or partner, and that none has the right to be worshiped but Him alone. He is the true God, and every other deity is false. He has the most magnificent names and sublime perfect attributes. No one shares His divinity, nor His attributes.

In the Quran, God describes Himself: “Say, “He is God, the One. God, to Whom the creatures turn for their needs. He begets not, nor was He begotten, and there is none like Him.” [The Noble Qur’an, 112:1-4]

No one has the right to be invoked, supplicated, prayed to, or shown any act of worship, but God alone.

Islam also rejects the attribution of any human form to God. All of these are considered blasphemous.

God is the Exalted. He is far removed from every imperfection. He never becomes weary. He does not become drowsy nor does he sleep.

The Arabic word Allah means God (the one and only true God who created the whole universe). This word Allah is a name for God, which is used by Arabic speakers, both Arab Muslims and Arab Christians. This word cannot be used to designate anything other than the one true God.

Image(s) of ‘GOD’ from Sikhism, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism!

2 May

Image(s) of ‘GOD’ from Sikhism, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism:

         Okay, now that we know according to Hinduism and Jewism/Christianity one should not picturize God ‘as they do it now’. Today we will discuss what Sikhism, Buddhism and Zoroastrianism says about it!

Sikhism:

The Guru Granth Sahib, the central scripture and Guru of Sikhs, strongly rejects idolatry. Idolatry is also rejected by the Dasam Granth a scripture by the tenth Guru, Guru Gobind Singh, and within numerous rehatnamas (documents codifying the code of conduct of the Sikh religion), such as the Sikh Rehat Maryada and the Budha Dal Rehatnama.

Sikhism criticises the practice of using idols to represent God and pray to him.

BUT NOW!!

Human figures of religious significance, such as the Sikh gurus, are common in ‘modern’ Sikhism, and the Sikh attitude to non-religious images is generally relaxed.

Mouth Shut (??!!)

Buddhism:

  • The historical Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama or Shakyamuni) neither regarded himself nor wished to be regarded as a God.

  • In any of the ‘Sacred’ texts of Buddhism we do not find any evidence or statement approving or promoting of idol worship by Buddha.

  • On the contrary, Buddha has opposed making of idols, when Ananda, a close relative, the most devoted attendant and a leading monk sought permission to make an idol of Buddha.

  • The practice of idol worship in present day Buddhism is an innovation, defying the teachings of Buddha.

Christmas Humpreys, author of the book ‘Buddhism’, says of himself that he studied Buddhism for thirty years and of Buddhism in the world today he knows more than most and he has this to say about the Buddhist Scriptures:

“The Buddha himself wrote nothing, and none of his teaching was written down for at least four hundred years after his death. We, therefore do not know what the Buddha taught, any more than we know what Jesus taught; and today at least four schools, with sub-division in each, proclaim their own view as to what is Buddhism”.

The disappearance of original teachings and practices of Buddha are almost complete today, for the Buddhists are sunk in superstitions, idol worship and Hindu religious rituals. Original Buddhism has changed colors completely.

  • H.G. Wells (An Outline of History Page 392) has described this in a very terse language. “Gautama’s disciples have cared more for the preservation of his tree than of his thought, which from the first they distorted and misconceived (the Bodh tree which helped him to rest his back, while achieved ‘enlightenment’, still exists and with a sapling from the original tree planted in Sri Lanka, the Sri Maha Bodi in Anuradapura , venerated and worshipped excessively)”.

Writing on the corruption of Buddhism, Mr. Wells makes the following interesting observations:

“Tibet today is a Buddhist country, yet Gautama could he return to earth, might go from end to end of Tibet seeking his own teaching in vain.

About this Buddhist countryside he would discover a number of curious little mechanisms, little wind-wheels and water-wheels spinning, on which brief prayers were inscribed. Every time these things spin, he would learn, it counts as a prayer. ‘To whom?’, he would ask.

The most striking and undisputable statement about the authenticity of the Buddhist scriptures is by Chief Monk Akuratiye Amarawansa, Chancellor of the Vidyodaya Buddhist University (Pirivena), Maligakanda, Colombo; Scholar of the Tripitaka and Chief Monk of Southern Sri Lanka. In his preface to the Sinhala translation of Deega Nikaya, he has expressed the following:

  • “The Deega Nikaya that we see today cannot be assuredly said to be the same one that was presented to the first reform council (Dharma Sangayana). Many reform councils were held subsequently and these Nikayas and divisions would have been subjected to many changes. Therefore, the most acceptable view would be that the present Deega Nikaya is a collection of sutras subjected to changes, additions and deletions taken place after the first reform council.”

So if you find anything to be in favour of ‘idol worship’ in Buddhism.. simply remind yourself of ‘Cheif Monk’ Akuratiye’s Statement.

For additional Reading: http://www.allaahuakbar.net/buddhism/reality_of_idol_worship_and_buddhism.htm

Zoroastrianism:

 Idol worship is prohibited in Zoroastrianism’s Sacred Scriptures too!

Chapter 68.

1. I also saw the souls of a man and a woman (2) whom they ever DRAG, the man to heaven and the woman to HELL. (3) And the woman’s hand was caught in the knot and sacred thread [kusti] of the man, (4) and she said thus: ‘How is it when we had every benefit in union, among the living, (5) now they are dragging thee to heaven, and me to HELL?’

6. And the man said thus: ‘Because whatever things I received of the good and worthy, I also gave them back to the poor; (7) and I practised good thoughts and good words and good deeds; (8) I also heeded God, and disregarded the demons; (9) and I have been steadfast in the good religion.

10. But you despised the good and poor and worthy and travellers; (11) you also disregarded God, and YOU WORSHIPPED IDOLS; (12) and practised evil thoughts and evil words and evil deeds; (13) and you have been steadfast in the religion of ahriman and the demons.’

– THE BOOK OF ARDA VIRAF, a holy book of Zoroastrianism..

  • Idol Worship is considered as a transgression of Zoroastrian commandment. For Scriptural verification,please refer to Patet Pashemani Manthra, Kardeh 10 word 21 (ozdist parasti).

I am asking you O! My dear Zoroastrians..

What do you think about ‘fire’? Is it not an idol? I mean do you think an idol is only made up of clay or a stone?

You say you worship your God through fire.. exactly this is what idol worshippers say.. WE WORSHIP OUR GOD THROUGH THIS ..!!

THINK!

Wait for: Replies to ‘Idol Worshippers’!

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